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 Post subject: Re: Platonic and Casual
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:57 pm 
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Im 99% gay, I actually discovered that I liked CFNM when I was working as a stripper and women came into the club. I didn't expect to be able to keep an erection for them, but I just loved it. Never crossed my mind to have sex with them... and yet I wouldn't quite describe it as platonic/casual.

Since moving to nyc I've found a couple parties where I can be naked for women but the other straight guys kinda scare me lol


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:17 pm 
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...but the other straight guys kinda scare me lol


That's an interesting perspective. What about them scare you?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 01, 2021 7:18 pm 
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This dicussion is a great discussion. I've never seen or thought about cfnm im this way before


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 5:00 am 
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SemiAnonymous wrote:
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I understand as the coolest CFNM that one that is not clearly leading to sex. Or at least, you dont know for sure.
I dont mean that is not exciting. Anything is exciting if you know it will end in a good sex session. But the real way i think in CFNM is that one where maybe is nothing more coming besides the fact of me being exposed to some girl/s. Maybe with a friend you know is not going to be anything else. Maybe with unknown people. Anyway, in any situation, the best thing is to let it flow, and see what happens.


Exactly!

Some of my fondest CFNM times were visiting a friend I'll call Ann who lived 4 hours away in another state. Ann, I, and the woman that would become my wife (Debbie) met in an online chat room. However I used to visit Ann before meeting Debbie in real life, and we were like best buds... nothing sexual. I really didn't want to ruin our friendship with sex. I'm sure everyone thought Ann and I were bonking.. hell even Debbie asked me about it a few times, but the truth was we were just friends. She knew I was a nudist and always gave me the freedom to be nude in her house (except when others were there). We slept together multiple times but never went past a cuddle. Although I do have to admit her nearness and warmth got me hard a few times and I ended up poking her while we spooned.

After my wife and I got married I wasn't sure how if my (un)dress code would change, but on the first visit I found out. We went there for New Years and after arriving, greetings, and unpacking, the women hung out in the kitchen and I camped out in front of the TV. Being clothed started to bug me so I went back to our room, stripped out of my clothes and tied a sarong on. I figured if I had to wear clothes I'd be as comfortable as I could be. I went to the kitchen to get a beer and Ann said "what the hell is this? You're usually naked 5 minutes after you get here". My wife laughed and added, "yeah, whats up? you NEVER wear clothes at home." I checked if they meant it, and they replied yes so I took the sarong off and spent the rest of the time nude until we went out for the evening. I also spent most of the of the weekend nude and they both acted like it was the most normal thing in the world. I only had to dress once when Ann's daughter came over.

We've been back a few times since then and I'm always naked. Ann and I don't sleep together anymore, but the 3 of us did spend a few evenings watching TV in her bed... me in the middle undressed for comfort and my two favorite women in the world on either side of me.

Ain't nothing wrong with more sexual CFNM.. hell I watch a lot of it in porn, but for me I prefer everyday situations where I just happen to be undressed and in the company of clothed women.



I am also a nudist and this is exactly how I like a lot of my scenarios. Just laid back and casual, no over the top plots or horrible acting. Just normal situations where I happen to be naked and the other person is not.

Being a nudist and having a decent personality, I've had the privilege of having the opportunity to be naked in front of others without expectations. It's not only physically comfortable for me but there's a sense of satisfaction that comes when I can stand proudly and openly in front of someone without them feeling threatened. I feel like I'm really I'm touch with my masculinity when I'm naked, it's like an almost primitive. I think it gives women a wonderful and safe way to study the male anatomy and interact with men safely but with a bit of fun.

Sometimes there's a little bit of giggling but it can become very normalized very quick. There's a bit of a rush at first but when my adrenaline does settle I feel so content and we can end up having a really wholesome and meaningful interaction.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 7:05 am 
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Soprano45 wrote:
True, OP.

Best CFNM is when the women is either amused or slightly flustered, but not dominating


Totally agree.
If they are dominating it means they expect it, and for me the whole situation fade out.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:32 pm 
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guest99 wrote:
Soprano45 wrote:
True, OP.

Best CFNM is when the women is either amused or slightly flustered, but not dominating


Totally agree.
If they are dominating it means they expect it, and for me the whole situation fade out.


The same if it's too staged.. somethign like 'Dancing bear' can be quite good. Some of the girls seem genuine but yeah about 90% are porn stars. On one video a girl even gives a guy an hj/bj and says 'that's 50 bucks'.. then realises she's kinda given the game away. I guess the cash incentive is there for any non-pros too.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:09 am 
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Years ago I did business with a graphic artist who was a nudist and conducted business with - at best - a skimpy robe on. Mostly nude. And it didn't matter whether it was meeting with men or women, or both at the same time, he just preferred to conduct business that way. It was something he did and didn't spend a whole lot of drama on, so neither did we. Platonic, casual and after a time, normal.

One afternoon we were sitting in his studio - me in a business suit and him stark naked - and I asked him how he'd become so comfortable conducting business that way and he said it was because he felt he could be completely honest when he was naked, that it was his way of showing his partners there was nothing to hide. I respected that then, and respect it now.

In a way it has informed my own lack of drama when it comes to getting naked in front of other people.

Intimate, not sexual, is how I explain it.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 8:54 pm 
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Is it possible to enjoy both kinds of cfnm experiences : the platonic or the kind you dont intend or anticipate will become sexual, and the experience which is at the beginning of sex, or at least one hopes or expects will lead to sex. Then there is that special experience in which both sexual and non sexual anticipation occur at the same time -- stripping for a nude massage.
The moment when the masseuse sees you first lying on the massage bed is very fine. At the least it is erotic.

I am old enough to define a handjob, let a lone a blow job as "sex', though I understand that those of you who are younger than my 102 years (more or less) dont call a blow job "sex". I am not confusing cfnm with sex, it is only a form of foreplay or a prelude or kinda innocent. A nude massage doesnt always result in a handjob, it is quasi/crypto erotic. it is full of anticipation -- will she or wont she? Only once did a massage move from a handjob to a blow job to intercourse. Even when a massage does not evolve, it is physically very pleasant and erotic.

Is there dominance in a massage? Your nude, she isnt, but you are the customer, you are paying and tipping, but she has your dick. Who is the boss, and is this the purest CFNM? both parties are dominant and subordinate, your enjoyment is in seeing her see you, her enjoyment is getting paid and the indulgence of seeing a nude man while unexposed and invulnerable.


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This is interesting and something a lot of porn is missing. It's all very staged, and mostly female domination which is I think what men think men want? It's not always. Platonic , I would imagine, is difficult as if you get that wrong the friendship or whatever could be completely destroyed. We are a very messed up society in some ways I think, things that could be normal and enjoyable are looked down on, yet other more harmful behaviour is condoned. I love the story from a previous poster about his wife and friend and he's a very lucky boy!


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Soprano45 wrote:
True, OP.

Best CFNM is when the women is either amused or slightly flustered, but not dominating



I agree completely


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sammie78 wrote:
Im 99% gay, I actually discovered that I liked CFNM when I was working as a stripper and women came into the club. I didn't expect to be able to keep an erection for them, but I just loved it. Never crossed my mind to have sex with them... and yet I wouldn't quite describe it as platonic/casual.

Since moving to nyc I've found a couple parties where I can be naked for women but the other straight guys kinda scare me lol


Same here! I am gay, but I like CFNM a lot! Fortunately, I convinced my girlfriends that it’s okay to practice casual one-way nudity without requirement for any female nudity :)


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:34 am 
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FinnTheHuman wrote:
sammie78 wrote:
Im 99% gay, I actually discovered that I liked CFNM when I was working as a stripper and women came into the club. I didn't expect to be able to keep an erection for them, but I just loved it. Never crossed my mind to have sex with them... and yet I wouldn't quite describe it as platonic/casual.

Since moving to nyc I've found a couple parties where I can be naked for women but the other straight guys kinda scare me lol


Same here! I am gay, but I like CFNM a lot! Fortunately, I convinced my girlfriends that it’s okay to practice casual one-way nudity without requirement for any female nudity :)


This sounds great. I've convinced gay dudes to mess around with their girlfriends for me on webcam at a party and it was great


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:21 pm 
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This dicussion is a great discussion. I've never seen or thought about cfnm im this way before


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Soprano45 wrote:
True, OP.

Best CFNM is when the women is either amused or slightly flustered, but not dominating


Agreed this is my ideal!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:13 pm 
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Cfnm should be platonic at least how i consider cfnm


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